Al Nas - Smoking truck on Allied flag

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Al Nas - Smoking truck on Allied flag

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I was playing CTF Al Nas tonight and I was informed to get out of the smoking remains of a truck/HMMV near allied flag by Reyalp. I was playing on the allied side guarding the flag in the allied main.
I never knew there was an issue. I like to play defense and I was in fact hiding inside and on top of the smoking truck. Rayalp said I couldn't be killed there, which is not the case in my situation. I have been killed many times inside and on top of the smoking vehicles. I don't know about anyone else, but I am not impervious inside, on top of, or near that smoking HMMV.

To be very clear, my intention was not to glitch or avoid being killed. I did not know this was an issue until I was informed by Reyalp tonight. No one has ever mentioned it before tonight, so I found it interesting to say the least.

To clarify, since I was informed by Reyalp that "it has been discussed by admin" and "do it again, and I am gone". So, just to be sure, is this a rule that a player can NOT hide inside or on top pf the smoking HMMV near the allied flag? Obviously, this is new to me.
If this is the case, then it's not an issue with me and I will not do so in the future. If you all have discussed and made a concise decision, then it should be shared with the players on the server so they know what they can and can't do per rules. The vague stuff needs to end.

Clear communication is the key to success!

Reyalp, this post does need to be made, and if it is in fact a rule decided by the admins, then you need to have it explained CLEARLY as a rule in-game when people ask and on the board.
All that needs to be said is "Get out of there. It's a rule". and "See the board for more info" and plug this site.

Thanks

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yes i was shooting on payne n diaz and he didnt die
3 rockets in head i shoot and he didnt die
plz admins reply on this is this glitching or what
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There's no new rule here that you don't know of. What's applied is the "No glitch or be banned" rule. We noticed some players hiding inside the Humvee wreckage to guard blue flag and people were complaining that they can't be killed while still be able to shoot out to defend the flag. That's what a typical glitch is. We even did a few simulated gameplays just to verify that. Yes, you can be killed while inside, but only from certain angle. You are safe from most attacks, even a c4 stick right by you does no harm. It's not as bad as a wall hack, but in the heat of a game, not everyone has the time/knowledge to kill the defender and run away with the flag. So the conclusion was that spot is forbidden. I suppose you could stay on top of it though.
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Sounds good S.O.S.

All Reyalp had to do was say "Get out of there. It's a possible glitch area per rules"
I didn't know that area was a problem. I understand how glitches work and I report them if I see players doing it. It's cheating in my opinion.

It's settled. It is a glitch area.

When someone asks why then it shouldn't be too much to explain why. It's what admins do regardless if being in-game or in forum.
Clarity is a great thing. Some admins have it, some don't.
S.O.S. I appreciate your clarity in communicating.
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haha reyalp is SOS is default
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Very few people use it, maybe because its a known no-no. I dunno.

Like many of the rules here, you will only know them by playing a lot and reading up on the forums. It's like the english language. There are no rules but those that have been decided on and the exceptions to those rules, etc...

You may even bring something up here and you'll get different answers from different admins, right here on the forum, or at least they admit to enforcing it differently in game. Sometimes they say good enough, go with whatever the admin in game says, other times, they'll finalize a decision. It can be fluid at times.
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S.O.S wrote:We even did a few simulated gameplays just to verify that. Yes, you can be killed while inside, but only from certain angle. You are safe from most attacks, even a c4 stick right by you does no harm.
If I recall correctly, the testing showed that you're only vulnerable through the "windshield" and where the "front doors" should be on the wreckage. We couldn't kill or splash damage someone who was inside and keeping their body back away from those areas.

Agree that it's been enforced as a glitch area in the past, and should continue to be.

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As Thonger said, Reyalp = S.O.S, if you don't already know.

Here's the log during the game, don't know how much more clarity you need to understand not to get in there:
11/14/2015 21:06:25 : # [Allies] Reyalp: get out from there Irish
11/14/2015 21:06:52 : # [Allies] Reyalp: it's considered a glitch
11/14/2015 21:06:52 : # [Global] Jolly Mario Batali <GP>: lol hi greeny
11/14/2015 21:06:55 : # [Allies] IrishLincoln: why?
11/14/2015 21:06:55 : # [Axis] MaliMrav<CP>: roof
11/14/2015 21:06:55 : # [Global] non-newtonian: a humble rock licker with a taste for bitumen
11/14/2015 21:07:08 : # [Global] Sarge: ]yall can stick that c-4 up your asses
11/14/2015 21:07:08 : # [Global] Patches: lol killer
11/14/2015 21:07:08 : # [Allies] Reyalp: can't kill you from outside
11/14/2015 21:07:11 : # [Allies] IrishLincoln: flag
11/14/2015 21:07:19 : # [Allies] IrishLincoln: sure they can. he just did
11/14/2015 21:07:25 : # [Allies] Reyalp: can't kill you from outside
11/14/2015 21:07:28 : # [Global] HaV3n<CP*SF>: IL, thats a known exploit to be inside that spot
11/14/2015 21:07:32 : # [Allies] IrishLincoln: HE JUST DID
11/14/2015 21:07:35 : # [Global] HaV3n<CP*SF>: the humvee or whatever in blue main
11/14/2015 21:08:08 : # [Global] Reyalp: or very hrad to
11/14/2015 21:08:14 : # [Global] Reyalp: so don't do it
11/14/2015 21:08:28 : # [Allies] ButtBreath : ORRY
11/14/2015 21:08:38 : # [Allies] IrishLincoln: Hey Reyalp
11/14/2015 21:08:41 : # [Axis] gunslinger: y c4 the flag
11/14/2015 21:08:44 : # [Allies] Reyalp: ?
11/14/2015 21:08:49 : # [Allies] IrishLincoln: yes, you can be killed in there. He just killed me
11/14/2015 21:08:52 : # [Global] gunslinger: c4 ing flag no no
11/14/2015 21:08:52 : # [Global] Jolly Mario Batali <GP>: lol HOG you snipe like demonic
11/14/2015 21:09:01 : # [Axis] ColdSteel: THEY HAVE BEEN DOING IT ALL GAME
11/14/2015 21:09:05 : # [Global] Reyalp: discussed among admins
11/14/2015 21:09:19 : # [Global] Reyalp: so don't get in there
11/14/2015 21:09:22 : # [Global] IrishLincoln: you just saw me die
11/14/2015 21:09:28 : # [Global] Reyalp: or get kick/banned
11/14/2015 21:09:41 : # [Global] IrishLincoln: post it on the boards so everyone knows.
11/14/2015 21:09:52 : # [Global] IrishLincoln: never saw it talked about before tonight and never
11/14/2015 21:09:58 : # [Global] IrishLincoln: use it as a block when you can die there
11/14/2015 21:10:01 : # [Global] Reyalp: do it if you wish
11/14/2015 21:10:19 : # [Global] HaV3n<CP*SF>: its rarely used you're correct
11/14/2015 21:10:46 : # [Global] HaV3n<CP*SF>: but just telling you
11/14/2015 21:10:46 : # [Global] IrishLincoln: is it or is it not against the rules and where is
11/14/2015 21:10:46 : # [Global] HaV3n<CP*SF>: and I was able to kill u in it, but sometimes it b
11/14/2015 21:10:46 : # [Global] HaV3n<CP*SF>: everythig
11/14/2015 21:10:46 : # [Global] IrishLincoln: asking for info
11/14/2015 21:10:46 : # [Global] Reyalp: it's be decided
11/14/2015 21:10:46 : # [Global] Reyalp: do it again, you are gone
11/14/2015 21:10:56 : # [Global] IrishLincoln: when? where is it posted
11/14/2015 21:11:08 : # [Allies] IrishLincoln: let's not make up rules as we go
11/14/2015 21:11:11 : # [Global] IrishLincoln: if it is a rule say so
11/14/2015 21:11:14 : # [Axis] HOG<CP*SF>: spawn truck near entrance
11/14/2015 21:11:14 : # [Axis] HOG<CP*SF>: market
11/14/2015 21:11:19 : # [Allies] Jolly Mario Batali <GP>: gj buttbreath
11/14/2015 21:11:22 : # [Global] HaV3n<CP*SF>: zero movemnt to flag
11/14/2015 21:11:26 : # [Global] HaV3n<CP*SF>: as usual :\
11/14/2015 21:11:32 : # [Allies] ButtBreath : ty
11/14/2015 21:11:49 : # [Global] IrishLincoln: Say "it is a posted rule. see the forum for more i
11/14/2015 21:11:52 : # [Global] IrishLincoln: good admins do that
11/14/2015 21:12:05 : # [Global] HaV3n<CP*SF>: its probably not posted
11/14/2015 21:12:11 : # [Global] IrishLincoln: needs tpo be
11/14/2015 21:12:16 : # [Global] Reyalp: just warned you, didn't I?
11/14/2015 21:12:32 : # [Global] IrishLincoln: So, it's a rule to be clear
11/14/2015 21:12:41 : # [Global] Reyalp: yes
I suppose it's a common sense to do what the admins ask with a good reasoning, at least for the moment, then look for answers later if you don't agree. Didn't have time and will to explain in more details in a heated game.
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I love the random "flag" or "spawn truck near market" or "y'all can stick that C4 up your asses"
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Hmm good to know. I had no idea about this glitch. Ive probably hopped on that wreckage myself a few times. Not anymore.
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