Custom Made Maps in the Rotation

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Would you like Bangs Custom Maps in the Rotation?

Yes I would like Bang’s Maps in the rotation
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63%
No I wouldn’t like Bang’s Maps in the rotation
3
38%
 
Total votes: 8

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Custom Made Maps in the Rotation

Post by BangBangOw<CP*SF> »

Hello all,

As you know, Bang likes to talk about his custom maps all the time.

Let’s say the admins here were okay with putting my maps into the rotation for the server...

How many of you guys would be inclined to download them, it’d take about 5 minutes; then you would be able to enjoy some new maps.

I can produce about 2-3 maps every 3 months, but I do have a head start right now because I have a good chunk around 10 that are close to done, and 3 that are done.

Let me know what y’all think, if we get enough responses, it might twist Trench’s arm😄👍🏻
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I think the lag is a serious issue. If I can't zoom without lag - even after reducing graphics to the bare minimum (which helped me pwn al nas next time I booted up DC, by the way -- thanks) it's not worth the fancy map.

I was daydreaming what your version of benghazi would be like today...
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You’re the only one who has complained about the lag, but I do know that the snipers get a little laggy on the jungle map. Everything else works fine according to everyone else. I’m sorry your computer can’t handle some of it lol.
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hrm that's surprising. I have an i5 laptop with 8 gigs of ram so it shouldn't be that bad...please don't give me an excuse to buy a new compooter....
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How's the installer progressing?

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I have one made, but i can always add something here and there when some one says this would be better... so I haven’t put a finished one up yet.
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Bang I hate to be the one to take a dump on the idea here, but you need to put some work into this one to get a fair enough response for a decision to based on a poll.

We have said time and time again that it is difficult to get anyone to download anything and I'm staying in that lane. It is like pulling teeth just to get some players to do a 10 minute reinstall with the abandonware to fix problems, let alone get custom content installed.
You need to factor in all our regular players who do not visit the forum to offer their opinion on whether or not they would take time to download your maps.
While time consuming, I highly suggest checking our Gametracker board and meticulously 5 at a time messaging our regular players in an attempt to have them come give their opinion on this one. We absolutely do not want to prevent anyone from hopping in due to having no idea there are custom maps up for download while we play them.
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If FHSW can get people to download a 10 minute patch every month, and still have 80-100 players on their server, then I think it’s possible lol. You could put up one of those grey notifications for the server “make sure to download our custom maps on the forum”... and then we could remind people to get the installer. I think it’d work just fine, and if some people got map not found they’d probably wonder why and if they found out that it’s a quick download and they don’t even have to login to get it... I’d bet we’d get people to get them.
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Maybe have and PAY for your own server to host YOUR maps. Then YOU can direct people to wherever they have to go get them.

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Or we could just have them available for EA117, since almost everyone that plays them has nothing but good things to say. But nonetheless thank you for your input Otto. 😄👍🏻
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How about the following idea:
Have the custom maps present on the EA117 server, just not in the maplist rotation.
Also, put links to the download for the map on the webpage...
That way, everyone can join because normally all the regular maps run.
Then, if theres a game going, the admins can ask ingame whether people want to play the custom maps? And then (onetime-) switch it those custom maps ??

Just an idea,
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I’m putting an installer up once HRD gives me some feedback and a few others (on the maps), also kinda wanted Trench back in town first to get his final thoughts. I don’t want to anger the almighty here at EA117... 🤪
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why are you guys making it so difficult, I downloaded and installed the files in less than 2 minutes. The maps are really good I played and enjoyed them. one way to help people installing and trying them is by inviting them through the in-game server messages.
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Trench wrote:July 28th, 2020, 4:15 pm The other gate we'll need to pass though is having the installer that we can actually de-compile or compile here. Since there won't be any "EA117 said to download this" for which EA117 doesn't have definitive knowledge and access to what's in the installer. We would also be looking at how well it handles varied installations (CD, Origin, custom folder, etc.) since that will directly bear on its supportability for the players who download it.
Trench wrote:June 26th, 2020, 10:33 pm If you are going to make an installer anyway and can share the source, I'd be happy to take a look at how robust it will be and see if that helps change my mind. I've just always had a very specific idea of what "the day EA117 tries to do download-required maps again" would look like, and I am not sold that I'd be happy or that it's necessary to settle for any "half-measures". So no promises, but if you were "going to make one anyway" for having the event "somewhere" even if that's not EA117, maybe it's no wasted effort to still make it and see what we think.
This is quoted from the discussion that went on in private messages last year.

It is true that EA117 has not been interested in making custom maps a part of the EA117 server rotation, unless and until we can make an automatic download system. To make things as transparent as possible, both for the players attempting to use them, and for the admins who would end up needing to support them.

That type of system is still a long way off, and we feel no urgency in "let's support custom maps anyway possible right now", and have no issue waiting until we do have such a system created. If it never happens because no one has additional free time to dedicate beyond gaming, it's also fine if it never happens.

We've hosted custom maps on EA117 before, and had them has part of the rotation. It's based on that experience that we're now saying "let's not do that again until we have a better system in place." BangBangOw and others have proposed that the support might not be as bad as what we're thinking, and that we should try it again.

As such, the proposed compromise and quoted discussion you're seeing above was in relation to "we're willing to try hosting them as a one-time event", e.g. on Sunday night or similar, to see how it goes. But with the gates and conditions related to the installer, which you can see described in the quoted messages above.

That hasn't happened since July 2020, because no such installer was ever submitted for review. Not because "Trench said no", and not because EA117 wasn't willing to at least try running custom maps as a one-time event.

If having an installer that needs to meet EA117 criteria is deemed "too burdensome" or an unnecessary obstacle, that too is perfectly fine. The described conditions are only for hosting the maps here on EA117. Clearly you can choose to host them anywhere you want, and on a server which does not have similar expectations.
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