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GBD wrote:July 12th, 2021, 9:19 pm Again wtf kick or ban, and still autokicked from this since 2016! WTF Apartheid!
Cant speak
Mister Trench dont admin abuse me pls
By for now
REALLY bored I do a lot to keep this BS alive !
Trench wrote:July 12th, 2021, 10:43 pm There are plenty of places you can go and only chat with people, if that's what you want to do.
This server, while we're in the middle of a game, is not one of those places.

Indeed, when you're simply going to talk and not play,
or talk and not play and then team-switch when you are ready to play,
you're not going to get very far here.

We have been very patient thus far, for many months, but our requests to you continue to fall on deaf ears.
So now our patience has ended.
GBD wrote:July 13th, 2021, 6:08 pm Bang pls don't intervene (none of your business). What do you mean Trench? Am I the only one unallowed to chat? Or do you just dislike my content? I mean I've been playing here so long that I know how your rules tightened to this day. And it's becoming a bit unpleasant to be the scapegoat in service! Please don't stigmatize me, I'm better than how you describe it! No hate, pls! Also I don't think a bit of chatting deserves a ban or kick for long moment. How about the others? Why only kick me?
tonawandares wrote:July 13th, 2021, 7:05 pm GBD, I kicked you. GBD, I kicked you for repeatedly violated server rules. If you have been here so long then you are quite familiar with the rule regarding chat spam, right. Instead of complying last night, you wanted to argue your case in game instead of taking it to the forum. Shall I share the server log? Would you like to see for yourself how much you actually talk and not even be playing? I really doubt that it matters to you and that is exactly why I kicked you.
tonawandares wrote:July 13th, 2021, 7:06 pm You don't care that you are disrupting EVERY ONE ELSE'S time for relaxation and fun. Please take your complaint to the forum
We do kick others when there is a chat spam problem, GBD. The reason you experience "I'm being kicked all the time" is because you are the player who has a chat spam problem "all the time." You are the player who has an inactivity problem "all the time."

Other players do not have more than just the occasional problem following this rule, and they are kicked for it when they don't stop after being warned, same as you are being kicked after being warned.

And as Tona said, regardless of whether it's also a rule or not, have respect for the other players on the server who are actually here to play. Which is the reason why this server even exists. You claim to deserve respect, but you give none to the players on this server with your behavior.

We ask you to stop talking and play, and you simply continue talking and not playing.

Your team is down by one player? Now they are down by two. Because GBD is just sitting there talking, and talking, and talking, and talking, not even spawned in, and not playing or contributing to the team.

And then on several occasions, after sitting there not playing and holding his team down by -2 players for half the game, then GBD team switches and forces someone else who has been playing to switch teams.

We ask you to stop. You even sometimes say you will stop. But you do not stop. You do not respect that the other players are here to play. You do not respect that we ourselves are here to play. And you do not respect that the admins ask you to stop.

Well, now you are stopped, because that's what happens when you ignore everything like this. Claim all the persecution nonsense you want. No one is confused about what your behavior has been. None of the players connected to the server are confused about what your behavior has been.

We actually do enjoy playing with you. And so does nearly every other player I know. The problem which has now come to a head is that the time you spend not playing far outweighs any time you spend playing.

If you want to spend the morning talking, by all means, do that. There are plenty of places on the Internet for doing exactly that. But don't come into this or any other game server and just sit idle and chat spam. When other people are trying to play the game, this is neither the time nor the place.
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@Tonawandares : I complained because I was kicked for a long moment, not just under few minutes, so it sounds more like a temporary ban than just a kick ; I tried to solve this problem ingame because I have trouble staying connected to this website. It keeps on logging me out automatically for some reason.
@Trench : "We actually do enjoy playing with you. And so does nearly every other player I know." Thanks for this consideration.
What you describe happened once, yes that night I was a bit drunk and over chatted, or chat spammed or whatever you want to call it, and I'm so sorry about it (I think I got kicked so let's consider I paid for my error). On the other hand you're not a pure anti-chat server as some others, I gotta a lot friends, I wait 3- 4 hours every night drinking alone before we can play a normal game such as 10+ players. So it might affect me sometimes so as the will to speak (a bit, not too much) after staying 'silent' 4 hours in a row. I did some effort to reduce my chat, since last warning, and I will try to do my best (sincerely) and respect other's gameplay. I promise. But please don't kick me the whole night for something eventually not so harmful, I think few minutes would be just.
I don't wanna be the bad boy, I do all my best to keep the ambiance cool and friendly. I hope you noticed I'm mostly peaceful and fair ingame.
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GBD wrote: July 13th, 2021, 9:51 pm What you describe happened once...
No. If that was true, we would not be talking about it.

And it's not that it's happened "only a few times", or else we would not be talking about it.

It's been happening nearly all the time. It's been happening multiple times even within a single day. It's been happening for multiple months.

And you have said before "I will stop", and yet here we are. Here we are with kicks still not solving the problem late last week. Here we are with a temporary ban over the weekend not having solved it. Here we are with you going right back to the same behavior again as soon as the temporary ban was lifted on Monday, and literally telling us in-game that you wouldn't play while connected, when we again made the request for you to stop talking and play.

You're describing this as though "it's what you want to do, so the rest of us just have to accept this behavior from you." No, we do not have to accept this behavior from anyone. No we do not have to just live with a teammate who chooses not to play, and who is constantly chatting instead.

Let us know when you're ready to make a different choice.

But really, it sounds like you rather would just go talk somewhere in the morning, instead of playing any game. There is nothing wrong with that, or that you would prefer talking over playing. You just have to go and do that, somewhere other than on this Desert Combat server, and rather than connecting here to simply not play and only chat spam.

This is really all the time I'm willing to spend on this. Make your choice and then go do whatever you chose to do. Because just like on the game server, we're here to play. Not to do this.
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Ok, then would you please tell what is the limit beteween chatting and spamming, I request my right to chat like the others. How do you define chat spam, please. I think you're a bit overreacting/exaggerating some facts. What happened once is : me AFK and only chatting, this happened once in the recent days. Me chatting every night? Sure, I'm human and more over according to my time zone, I need it more than any player. I've been the 1st players to join for weeks? And no one recognized that good job for keeping server/game alive. I won't tell you about how many gaming experiences I've passed inside BF mods, I've seen mostly, and this game was designed for it; people over chatting, and many spamming, but there is a difference a chatter talks to someone, a spammer spams! I had been letured for chatting only sometimes (admin misjudgement) so that happens too. Pixel Fighter FH server, who already asked me to be admin, like to chat a lot, and beer/weed talk and also encourage AFK because it populates the server... I mean ok now you decided to ban all chats, but make it more clear ! please; I"'ve been banned? You just told me that ! Why and when pls? How come my ingame browser doesn't let me know I'm banned? Banned for?
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You've also said recently that I have "stupid humour", although you may have been right (who knows), how can you as admin have said such a thing ? Is this regular ? No! Admins too get wrong sometimes, I know humans rates of errors cause I'm a regular chess player. And you re-asked to say something I've told you, " "We actually do enjoy playing with you. And so does nearly every other player I know." Thanks for this consideration.
What you describe happened once, yes that night I was a bit drunk and over chatted, or chat spammed or whatever you want to call it, and I'm so sorry about it (I think I got kicked so let's consider I paid for my error). On the other hand you're not a pure anti-chat server as some others, I gotta a lot friends, I wait 3- 4 hours every night drinking alone before we can play a normal game such as 10+ players. So it might affect me sometimes so as the will to speak (a bit, not too much) after staying 'silent' 4 hours in a row. I did some effort to reduce my chat, since last warning, and I will try to do my best (sincerely) and respect other's gameplay. I promise. " When I promise why don't you disbelieve me? I mean I'm not a child? And why the same jokes/badwords blabla which were perfectly tolerated b4 "The Mali Clash" , are cool in the mouth of Blink and not Brain? I dunno, my jokes are stupid because I'm a from Afrika? You strengthened your rules for no reason I think, we are not childs. And we ll never be anymore, monsieur Trench. You treat me again like a criminal, I don't like it. Chatting, over chatting was part of the game it was build, not to confuse with Spamming, IMO/
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Your joke in that instance was being called "dumb" because it was one of the many instances of you simply making homophobic statements in the in-game chat. Homophobic slurs, racial slurs, and insults in general are not permitted here. And your response to being told this by multiple admins during that instance was "They must hate me", rather than accepting that your statements were in violation of the rules.

No one has decided "to ban all chats."
No, it is not unusual for people to talk to one another.
The players on this server do it all the time, every day.

Those players are chatting while playing.
You are chatting instead of playing.
So we get all the disruption of chatting, with none of the benefits of a teammate who is here to play like everyone else.

The limit on this server for "when should I chat less" is when an admin has asked you to stop.

The limit on this server for "should I frequently remain idle instead of playing" is when an admin has asked you to stop.

Ever since the change-over to the block list / allow list for server access, most bans on this server simply can no longer connect to this server.

No, us asking you to stop is not a problem which "has happened only once."

No, us asking you to stop is not a problem which "has only happened in recent days."

You have been asked many, many times to stop chatting and play, rather than being idle and only talking.

But instead of addressing the problem, just like right now, you insist that you should be allowed.

If you are unwilling to stop as requested, that is your choice to make.
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Dude I'm not homophobic, nor racialist, you are freaking out, maybe you as admin should take a break and play in some other servers. I'm good, You're freaking out. Exaggerating everything, false accusations, dude I'm not Ceaușescu, I'm Brain, a player who likes to drink and play a lot share. I'm Not the one who you described. TAKE a break Mister Trench. No community players need constant admins, we need rotation ! GBD
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The words you had used in your insult were homophobic, which is why multiple admins had reacted and warned you about it after you said it. Again, this is all to answer the question you posed of "why did you call my joke dumb", and I am providing the answer to that question. Because a joke based on using a homophobic insult had sounded dumb to me, in addition to it being a problem relative to the server rules.

Which is not even the issue for the current ban or current unban request. It is just something you asked about.


Regarding the current ban and the current unban request:

If you have no intention to stop being idle while connected, and no intention to stop talking and play when asked, then we can consider this matter closed for now. And the ban will continue until there is a reason to revisit.
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7/12/2021 20:17:23 : # [Global] +Sicilian Dragon+: hi my name is brain
7/12/2021 20:17:35 : # [Global] RePete: hi
7/12/2021 20:17:41 : # [Global] +Sicilian Dragon+: kill the bots
7/12/2021 20:20:10 : # [Global] _Brain Damage_: back sorry
7/12/2021 20:20:32 : # [Global] _Brain Damage_: pressd the hack F4alt by accident xD
7/12/2021 20:21:17 : # [Global] _Brain Damage_: khi
7/12/2021 20:21:20 : # [Global] _Brain Damage_: Hi
7/12/2021 20:21:26 : # [Global] _Brain Damage_: I'm brain
7/12/2021 20:21:39 : # [Global] _Brain Damage_: gr8 brain
7/12/2021 20:21:48 : # [Global] _Brain Damage_: brain taijne
7/12/2021 20:22:30 : # [Global] _Brain Damage_: ROFL
7/12/2021 20:22:45 : # [Global] _Brain Damage_: kkilled a bot for his weapon I'm a criminal
7/12/2021 20:23:28 : # [Global] _Brain Damage_: who are you btw

7/12/2021 20:23:59 : # [Global] RePete: Pete
7/12/2021 20:23:59 : # [Global] _Brain Damage_: are you known player like me supastar or just BS
7/12/2021 20:24:05 : # [Global] _Brain Damage_: ah ok

7/12/2021 20:24:17 : # [Global] RePete: but i almost always say things twice so RePete
7/12/2021 20:24:29 : # [Global] _Brain Damage_: I'm a galactictic noob supa star
7/12/2021 20:24:41 : # [Global] _Brain Damage_: so :(

7/12/2021 20:25:05 : # [Global] RePete: do you have a cape and all
7/12/2021 20:25:11 : # [Global] _Brain Damage_: BITCHES bots
7/12/2021 20:25:42 : # [Global] _Brain Damage_: I own Afrwwweka I'm the Emperor of afrrika
7/12/2021 20:26:00 : # [Global] _Brain Damage_: afrika is for seel kall people moving to Europe
7/12/2021 20:26:12 : # [Global] _Brain Damage_: for SELL
7/12/2021 20:26:15 : # [Global] _Brain Damage_: halkf price
7/12/2021 20:26:46 : # [Global] _Brain Damage_: the emperoir if afrika seal***
7/12/2021 20:27:10 : # [Global] _Brain Damage_: we have bugs, it's afrika
7/12/2021 20:27:41 : # [Global] _Brain Damage_: I want 5 trillions for my continent !
7/12/2021 20:27:50 : # [Global] _Brain Damage_: it's cheap for whole continent
7/12/2021 20:28:11 : # [Global] _Brain Damage_: only 5 trillions, offer ends in 48 hours
7/12/2021 20:28:48 : # [Global] _Brain Damage_: hada hoowa
7/12/2021 20:28:54 : # [Global] _Brain Damage_: repete u french?
7/12/2021 20:29:33 : # [Global] _Brain Damage_: are you?
7/12/2021 20:30:34 : # [Global] _Brain Damage_: freak this is starting so late

7/12/2021 20:30:49 : # [Global] RePete: it's not late here
7/12/2021 20:31:02 : # [Global] _Brain Damage_: 230 am here
7/12/2021 20:31:23 : # [Global] _Brain Damage_: my dinner has cookked brb
7/12/2021 20:59:02 : # [Global] +Sicilian Dragon+: hi

7/12/2021 20:59:32 : # [Global] Hdestroyer: hi
7/12/2021 21:00:36 : # [Global] +Sicilian Dragon+: so hi
7/12/2021 21:01:06 : # [Global] +Sicilian Dragon+: I said hi

7/12/2021 21:02:04 : # [Global] Highway Man: HOWDY
7/12/2021 21:02:22 : # [Global] Trench: No you're a howdy.
7/12/2021 21:02:28 : # [Global] Highway Man: no u.
7/12/2021 21:05:50 : # [Global] Highway Man: BLAAAM0!
7/12/2021 21:08:52 : # [Global] +Sicilian Dragon+: so hi boys
7/12/2021 21:09:04 : # [Global] +Sicilian Dragon+: Im pappy braino

7/12/2021 21:09:04 : # [Global] wildcard: hi
7/12/2021 21:09:17 : # [Global] Highway Man: BrainDamage?
7/12/2021 21:09:23 : # [Global] +Sicilian Dragon+: yes himslef
7/12/2021 21:09:29 : # [Global] Highway Man: slef?
7/12/2021 21:09:32 : # [Global] +Sicilian Dragon+: yes
7/12/2021 21:09:41 : # [Global] +Sicilian Dragon+: himself
7/12/2021 21:10:02 : # [Global] +Sicilian Dragon+: genius in chief, inservice for my army
7/12/2021 21:10:30 : # [Global] +Sicilian Dragon+: dont worry I wont be drunker than right now x
7/12/2021 21:11:52 : # [Global] +Sicilian Dragon+: brett knows when I started drinking :)°
7/12/2021 21:13:30 : # [Global] +Sicilian Dragon+: brettù?
7/12/2021 21:13:36 : # [Global] +Sicilian Dragon+: u there dude?
7/12/2021 21:14:03 : # [Global] +Sicilian Dragon+: (no, I'm not there) Rofl
7/12/2021 21:15:53 : # [Global] +Sicilian Dragon+: realistic choise
7/12/2021 21:15:56 : # [Global] +Sicilian Dragon+: choice
7/12/2021 21:17:57 : # [Global] +Sicilian Dragon+: not a great chicken rice but still ok thanks
7/12/2021 21:18:22 : # [Global] +Sicilian Dragon+: pluq energy rice xD
7/12/2021 21:18:25 : # [Global] +Sicilian Dragon+: pls+
7/12/2021 21:18:40 : # [Global] +Sicilian Dragon+: hey dudes !
7/12/2021 21:18:52 : # [Global] +Sicilian Dragon+: I'm Brain, the brain
7/12/2021 21:19:01 : # [Global] +Sicilian Dragon+: lets play some MAAAP !!!
7/12/2021 21:19:07 : # [Global] +Sicilian Dragon+: ptk
7/12/2021 21:19:13 : # [Global] +Sicilian Dragon+: dont even ask
7/12/2021 21:19:29 : # [Global] +Sicilian Dragon+: I'm a good boiii )))
7/12/2021 21:22:07 : # [Global] _Brain Damage_: dudes u gatta mission to build my EMPPUIIIRE

7/12/2021 21:22:10 : # [Global] Manuugly: kill the irishman
7/12/2021 21:22:28 : # [Global] _Brain Damage_: no he's a genius we worhip him
7/12/2021 21:23:02 : # [Global] RePete: missed
7/12/2021 21:23:02 : # [Global] Brettanomyces: lol -1
7/12/2021 21:23:11 : # [Global] _Brain Damage_: we're building afrika empire not a BS
7/12/2021 21:23:14 : # [Global] Trench: Success, compared to -2.
7/12/2021 21:23:26 : # [Global] Brettanomyces: :)
7/12/2021 21:23:26 : # [Global] _Brain Damage_: we have VISION 2030
7/12/2021 21:23:35 : # [Global] _Brain Damage_: EMPIRE of BRAINs
7/12/2021 21:23:41 : # [Global] _Brain Damage_: I'm am Brain
7/12/2021 21:23:54 : # [Global] _Brain Damage_: I want the oild dudes
7/12/2021 21:24:03 : # [Global] _Brain Damage_: and diamonnds

7/12/2021 21:24:06 : # [Global] Trench: We know you as "he with zero score" or "only talks".
7/12/2021 21:24:30 : # [Global] Brettanomyces: k-2
7/12/2021 21:24:34 : # [Global] _Brain Damage_: but I think, I think so hard for afrika vision
7/12/2021 21:24:55 : # [Global] _Brain Damage_: I'm the CPU I score zero or infinite same!

7/12/2021 21:25:07 : # [Global] Manuugly: i didnt know we had nick names
7/12/2021 21:25:16 : # [Global] _Brain Damage_: I want my forces to deploy*
7/12/2021 21:25:59 : # [Global] _Brain Damage_: all empires starts with one village conquest gj
7/12/2021 21:26:05 : # [Global] _Brain Damage_: general of my armies
7/12/2021 21:26:17 : # [Global] _Brain Damage_: I gotta a lot job to do eslwhere

7/12/2021 21:26:23 : # [Global] RePete: all kicks begin with too much chatter
7/12/2021 21:26:29 : # [Global] Brettanomyces: #6 is afk
7/12/2021 21:26:32 : # [Global] _Brain Damage_: ok)°
7/12/2021 21:26:48 : # [Global] Trench: So is #7.
7/12/2021 21:27:03 : # [Axis] _Brain Damage_: ftk dude my fault
7/12/2021 21:27:09 : # [Global] Trench: Both are the most recent joins.
7/12/2021 21:27:24 : # [Global] Brettanomyces: hd is here sice start
7/12/2021 21:28:22 : # [Global] _Brain Damage_: good team work ! bros
7/12/2021 21:28:32 : # [Global] Trench: -11!
7/12/2021 21:28:38 : # [Allies] Hdestroyer: sry
7/12/2021 21:29:23 : # [Global] Trench: Defeated by a mult-Pete.
7/12/2021 21:29:42 : # [Global] RePete: defeated suffices
7/12/2021 21:30:21 : # [Global] RePete: he came in through the bedroom window
7/12/2021 21:30:33 : # [Axis] _Brain Damage_: how would you feel after not speaking to noone 3-4
7/12/2021 21:30:58 : # [Global] _Brain Damage_: trench I'm chatty, 4Im more natural, human
7/12/2021 21:31:04 : # [Global] _Brain Damage_: not chaty

7/12/2021 21:31:28 : # [Global] Trench: Yes, but there are places you can do that.
7/12/2021 21:31:31 : # [Global] Brettanomyces: more chato than chatty
7/12/2021 21:31:37 : # [Global] Trench: If you come here and don't play, you won't stay.
7/12/2021 21:31:37 : # [Global] _Brain Damage_: I think anyone would act the same in my timezone
7/12/2021 21:31:49 : # [Global] Manuugly: ok
7/12/2021 21:32:23 : # [Global] _Brain Damage_: more understanding would be welcome I started yo
7/12/2021 21:32:26 : # [Global] _Brain Damage_: for days
7/12/2021 21:32:32 : # [Global] _Brain Damage_: brang players

7/12/2021 21:32:38 : # [Global] RePete: would not reload
7/12/2021 21:32:44 : # [Global] _Brain Damage_: always acted moral and serviceable
7/12/2021 21:33:02 : # [Global] _Brain Damage_: humbly

7/12/2021 21:33:08 : # [Global] RePete: can we just not have the conversation?
7/12/2021 21:33:27 : # [Axis] wildcard: srry
7/12/2021 21:33:36 : # [Global] _Brain Damage_: I dont wanna be tagged as the bad boy here pls
7/12/2021 21:33:51 : # [Global] _Brain Damage_: Yes I su when asked for

7/12/2021 21:34:22 : # [Global] Brettanomyces: lol
7/12/2021 21:34:40 : # [Global] _Brain Damage_: I think I deserve a bit more consideration consi
7/12/2021 21:34:55 : # [Global] _Brain Damage_: behavior and loyalty and service

7/12/2021 21:35:13 : # [Global] Trench: If you keep talking rather than playing, you're gone.
7/12/2021 21:35:19 : # [Global] Trench: Can't say it any more plainly.
7/12/2021 21:35:28 : # [Global] _Brain Damage_: I dont want to so it's ok
7/12/2021 21:35:53 : # [Global] Trench: Don't want to play?
7/12/2021 21:36:36 : Player _Brain Damage_ e6fdc36b35a28593e9710c613f18a48a [unknown] kicked by Tona for chat spamming.
7/12/2021 21:36:36 : Client: Said '[BFSM] _Brain Damage_ kicked for chat spamming'.
7/12/2021 21:36:36 : Client: Kick player _Brain Damage_.
7/12/2021 21:36:37 : Server: Admin message sent.
7/12/2021 21:36:37 : Server: Player _Brain Damage_ kicked.


I pulled the logs from the night you were kicked and subsequently banned.
This represents a period of 1 hour and 18 minutes of game play.
You DOMINATED the chat.
Most of that time, you were not even playing at all.
This is how we are defining CHAT SPAMMING and why you were kicked/Banned

Please notice the total amount of chat by every other player that was there at that time compared to you.
If you still do not understand why we did what we did or why we are doing what we are doing, please visit this site.
It is a great resource for how to start your own Reddit Community where folks from everywhere can join your new community and share.
https://www.digitaltrends.com/web/how-t ... subreddit/

If this is not what you want to do, and you really want this ban lifted, then please acknowledge that you now understand what the EA117 Community's complaint is against you and change your behavior.
As Trench said, we do enjoy gaming with you, but you are being disrespectful to all players with your constant chat spamming.

Feel free to respond here or hit me up with a PM and I'll do my best to help.

Thank you,

~ tona
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Re: General Brain Damage

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I totally agree with, I've always I agree the rules (though I regret they are now a bit too strict). I've said many times that my behavior of July 12th was faulty. Other that July 12th, I'm usually good, while I've been described as constant spammer, that's not true. I try my best to adapt to new rules, yes these are new rules. When I re-started playing here back in 2016, we could easily chat, gently insult others for fun (things, like "Sonofa, FDP, b***tch" were tolerated) because we were treated as adults and the ambiance was really friendly. I really regret those old good days. Other than that, I repeat again, I've never stated my July 12th behavior was excusable or good. I hate chat spamming also, but dear, it doesn't deserve a long ban.
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GBD wrote:I totally agree with, I've always I agree the rules (though I regret they are now a bit too strict).
The current rules regarding Chat Spamming have been in place since at least 2009. I don't recall exactly when I first started playing here but it was pre-2007 and I just don't recall the rules being too much different than they are now. The premise of the rules here has always been, "We are here to play and have fun; be respectful to all players and listen to the admins." All of the specifics of all of the rules are based on those principles.
So they are no more strict now than they ever have been.
GBD wrote:I've said many times that my behavior of July 12th was faulty. Other than July 12th, I'm usually good, while I've been described as constant spammer, that's not true.
If this were actually true...you would not have received a ban.
Not that I really want to, but if you would like me to prove this otherwise, I can pull almost any date that you are present and the logs would look just like the ones I provided from July 12th.
GBD wrote: I try my best to adapt to new rules, yes these are new rules.


See above. These are absolutely NOT new rules.
GBD wrote:When I re-started playing here back in 2016, we could easily chat, gently insult others for fun (things, like "Sonofa, FDP, b***tch" were tolerated) because we were treated as adults and the ambiance was really friendly.


Playing here is similar to most things in life...we get comfortable and somewhat lazy and lax regarding some responsibilities or adherence to codes and rules or law. And then, things start to get out of hand and the chain needs to be shortened and action is required to pull back to a place of order.
This happened a while back when we, as Admins, realized that the server behavior was getting to be a bit out of control.
This was our fault and we corrected it. So none of this is new at all.
There has to be order and order must be maintained in order for all to have an enjoyable experience here, including us. Because, we Admins are players here too and come to have fun, relax and enjoy the gaming friendships we've created over the years.
I contend that we treat everyone as adults that portray themselves as adults and work hard to maintain a good gaming environment for all.
GBD wrote:I really regret those old good days. Other than that, I repeat again, I've never stated my July 12th behavior was excusable or good. I hate chat spamming also, but dear, it doesn't deserve a long ban.
Two quick points here:
1.) If you hate chat-spamming, as you say, then you would stop...but you don't. Again, I will pull into this thread as many examples as you wish to prove that you LOVE chat-spamming.
2.) Your ban is not a matter of what you deserve. Its length is solely within your power to determine. You caused it; you can resolve it.

I hope this helps,

~ tona
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Re: General Brain Damage

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I've already promised : "On the other hand you're not a pure anti-chat server as some others, I gotta a lot friends, I wait 3- 4 hours every night drinking alone before we can play a normal game such as 10+ players. So it might affect me sometimes so as the will to speak (a bit, not too much) after staying 'silent' 4 hours in a row. I did some effort to reduce my chat, since last warning, and I will try to do my best (sincerely) and respect other's gameplay. I promise. But please don't kick me the whole night for something eventually not so harmful, I think few minutes would be just.
I don't wanna be the bad boy, I do all my best to keep the ambiance cool and friendly. I hope you noticed I'm mostly peaceful and fair ingame.
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Re: General Brain Damage

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"7/12/2021 20:17:23 : # [Global] +Sicilian Dragon+: hi my name is brain
7/12/2021 20:17:35 : # [Global] RePete: hi
7/12/2021 20:17:41 : # [Global] +Sicilian Dragon+: kill the bots
7/12/2021 20:20:10 : # [Global] _Brain Damage_: back sorry
7/12/2021 20:20:32 : # [Global] _Brain Damage_: pressd the hack F4alt by accident xD
7/12/2021 20:21:17 : # [Global] _Brain Damage_: khi
7/12/2021 20:21:20 : # [Global] _Brain Damage_: Hi
7/12/2021 20:21:26 : # [Global] _Brain Damage_: I'm brain
7/12/2021 20:21:39 : # [Global] _Brain Damage_: gr8 brain
7/12/2021 20:21:48 : # [Global] _Brain Damage_: brain taijne
7/12/2021 20:22:30 : # [Global] _Brain Damage_: ROFL
7/12/2021 20:22:45 : # [Global] _Brain Damage_: kkilled a bot for his weapon I'm a criminal
7/12/2021 20:23:28 : # [Global] _Brain Damage_: who are you btw
7/12/2021 20:23:59 : # [Global] RePete: Pete
7/12/2021 20:23:59 : # [Global] _Brain Damage_: are you known player like me supastar or just BS
7/12/2021 20:24:05 : # [Global] _Brain Damage_: ah ok
7/12/2021 20:24:17 : # [Global] RePete: but i almost always say things twice so RePete
7/12/2021 20:24:29 : # [Global] _Brain Damage_: I'm a galactictic noob supa star
7/12/2021 20:24:41 : # [Global] _Brain Damage_: so :(
7/12/2021 20:25:05 : # [Global] RePete: do you have a cape and all
7/12/2021 20:25:11 : # [Global] _Brain Damage_: BITCHES bots
7/12/2021 20:25:42 : # [Global] _Brain Damage_: I own Afrwwweka I'm the Emperor of afrrika
7/12/2021 20:26:00 : # [Global] _Brain Damage_: afrika is for seel kall people moving to Europe
7/12/2021 20:26:12 : # [Global] _Brain Damage_: for SELL
7/12/2021 20:26:15 : # [Global] _Brain Damage_: halkf price
7/12/2021 20:26:46 : # [Global] _Brain Damage_: the emperoir if afrika seal***
7/12/2021 20:27:10 : # [Global] _Brain Damage_: we have bugs, it's afrika
7/12/2021 20:27:41 : # [Global] _Brain Damage_: I want 5 trillions for my continent !
7/12/2021 20:27:50 : # [Global] _Brain Damage_: it's cheap for whole continent
7/12/2021 20:28:11 : # [Global] _Brain Damage_: only 5 trillions, offer ends in 48 hours
7/12/2021 20:28:48 : # [Global] _Brain Damage_: hada hoowa
7/12/2021 20:28:54 : # [Global] _Brain Damage_: repete u french?
7/12/2021 20:29:33 : # [Global] _Brain Damage_: are you?
7/12/2021 20:30:34 : # [Global] _Brain Damage_: freak this is starting so late
7/12/2021 20:30:49 : # [Global] RePete: it's not late here
7/12/2021 20:31:02 : # [Global] _Brain Damage_: 230 am here
7/12/2021 20:31:23 : # [Global] _Brain Damage_: my dinner has cookked brb
7/12/2021 20:59:02 : # [Global] +Sicilian Dragon+: hi"

This whole part was during COOP with one single other player online. And please consider the time lap between each message... (mostly 3 minutes while I dont even know how many humans are there) Dear admins please be understanding. I've never denied my fault, I'm sorry for my faults. But hey what if you uban and that happens again in 6 months. I don't think over drunk faulty players should pass through such a process to be allowed playing again. I think you're right as admin, but a bit rude on me.

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Re: General Brain Damage

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brain -- mr mayor of LV -- been great playing with you for many years.

one of the many aspects of this game that i enjoy so much is the in-game camaraderie and upbeat social environment of our server. however, as you have been warned about many times, your chat spamming has been a recurring problem for too long. i agree there is a fine line between using chat to socializing and over-doing it. unfortunately, you have indisputably been over-doing it. the admin team has been *very* patient with you. we ask that you (i) acknowledge the issue, (ii) apologize, (iii) resolve to not chat spam in the future.

might i recommend the following: perhaps teamspeak or the discord might be a better outlet for your proclivity to socialize during the game?

let's follow the rules so everyone can have a good time gaming here.
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Re: General Brain Damage

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And I didn't kick you during coop either, did I?.
The point wasn't about what mode of gameplay we are in.
I just selected the 12th because that was when you were kicked/banned.
I could just as easily pick any other night in any other mode of play. I offered to do so to substantiate my point.
To clarify, when you are kicked, it is momentary. not all night...that would be when you are banned.
GBD wrote:I've never denied my fault, I'm sorry for my faults. But hey what if you uban and that happens again in 6 months. I don't think over drunk faulty players should pass through such a process to be allowed playing again. I think you're right as admin, but a bit rude on me.
I'm not sure the question is, "hey what if you unban me and that happens again in 6 months" but rather, "what happens if that happens again tomorrow?"
This is a "nightly" thing not an every 6 month thing.

And also, I really believe that "nightly, over drunk faulty players should have more to be concerned about in life than being kicked/banned from a gaming server" ~ and this is a direct quote from a former over drunk faulty player.

I will state my acceptance of your apology and acceptance of the conditions by which players are welcome here and vote to unban you.
But excuses, such as being drunk, carry no weight...controlling yourself...well, that's an adult thing.

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Re: General Brain Damage

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RUDE
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GBD wrote: July 15th, 2021, 7:10 pmRUDE
I'm not being rude here...I'm being honest.

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Re: General Brain Damage

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Hey BD,

Take a look at the chat logs posted.

As Trench said,
you often dominate
the chat box
as Trench said
in his post before mine
that he posted here
you dominate the chat box
and it is often sentences
broken up unnecessarily or
gibberish
beer
beer
more beer
africa beer
beer
this is annoying to read right?


This clogs the chat box and makes it impossible for anybody else to communicate, regardless of subject matter. This is the ultimate issue here, and this is why you get kicked for chat spam.
When you're typing, you're not playing. That is fine until you're typing and typing and typing and.... then your team is down a player. This is a secondary issue to chat spam.

I've mentioned to you before that beer and online gaming might not be a good mix for you. You're a social guy when drinking, and in person that is a great quality. It just doesn't work during online gaming.
If you're able to, why don't you try Teamspeak or Discord if you feel like chatting? That way even if you get carried away and are not playing, we can just give you a temporary kick like we do for everybody (including each other) if needed and you can still keep chatting away.
I know they aren't usually busy, but the only way to change that is to start hanging out until somebody sees you on and jumps on as well. Then somebody else sees you two on and jumps on. So on and so forth.

This is beating on a dead horse so I'll keep it brief, but tona nailed it with his post about insults. It got to be out of hand and downright offensive so we had to tighten down on it. Maybe it is an issue with a language barrier or something, but when you make homosexual jokes and "jabs" at other players it often comes off more mean than "poking fun at a buddy" event hough that is likely not your intent. I suggest just avoiding those kinds of jokes.

We like you man and want you here, but you need to cool it on the spam and play more.
Or, just come hang out in voice chat if you want to visit. Some of our players hang out for hours just talking after the server shuts down for the night.
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Re: General Brain Damage

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I'M SORRY And VERY SORRY and SORRY again
“Sorry”—Justin Bieber
“Sorry For Party Rocking”—LMFAO
“Hard to Say I'm Sorry”—Chicago
“So. Central Rain (I'm Sorry)”—R.E.M.
“You're Not Sorry”—Taylor Swift
“I'm So Sorry”—Imagine Dragons
“Sorry Seems To Be The Hardest Word”—Elton John
“Sorry”—Beyonce
“Sorry”—Buckcherry
“Sorry, You're Not a Winner”—Enter Shikari

but let's make it clear, the time lap is long before I can play in EA117, now, I'm mostly drunk, yes I'm used to control myself, but some days are badder than others, and accidents can happen. Yes I've also been trying to reduce my chat ingame for the last months, maybe I should do more, indeed, when I'm a bit drunker than usual. But you know sometimes you're just tired and drunk and dont wanna stop speaking... In this a light kick/ban would be totally appropriate (12 hours please max not 24 hours because 24 hours in this is like 2 days ban technically).
My only complain was on Trench rudeness, the portrait he made of sounds like : "Ok we suffered your presence enough time, now it's time to go, forever, get out !" I know Trench didn't mean so much, still it was a bit rude.
I understand my over-chatting problem can be annoy others and this is really far from my intentions. I usually try to say something funny (debatable) everytime the ambiance is like a mourning. Zombie players... that can be boring. Well just an opinion, so that's how I feel about it.
As I promised I will adapt and respect the rules.
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GBD wrote: July 17th, 2021, 7:32 pm I'M SORRY And VERY SORRY and SORRY again
“Sorry”—Justin Bieber
“Sorry For Party Rocking”—LMFAO
“Hard to Say I'm Sorry”—Chicago
“So. Central Rain (I'm Sorry)”—R.E.M.
“You're Not Sorry”—Taylor Swift
“I'm So Sorry”—Imagine Dragons
“Sorry Seems To Be The Hardest Word”—Elton John
“Sorry”—Beyonce
“Sorry”—Buckcherry
“Sorry, You're Not a Winner”—Enter Shikari
This is a perfect example straight from the source of what you do to the chat box and get kicked for.
In a forum thread? Cool. In game? Not cool.
GBD wrote: July 17th, 2021, 7:32 pm My only complain was on Trench rudeness, the portrait he made of sounds like : "Ok we suffered your presence enough time, now it's time to go, forever, get out !" I know Trench didn't mean so much, still it was a bit rude.
At no point and time has Trench been anything but civil with you.
As he already explained, this isn't a once in awhile occurrence. This happens frequently and has has been happening for a long time.
I've kicked you and banned you for short periods as well in the past for the exact same reasons, yet here we are present day with the same issue persisting.

It needs to stop BD. Everyone on the admin team is fully aware that there is a massive range of personalities and backgrounds on the server and we do exercise a great amount of patience when players are creating problems. 99% of the time some kicks, temporary bans, and dialogue lead to a resolution. Your behaviour is beginning to fall into that 1% that isn't being resolved and that isn't leaving much option other than to escalate the admin response.

Please read through my previous post again. Take my advice, and take my advice I gave you months ago to better balance your drinking while playing online.
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