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Roadkilling with Carbombs in Uncap Mains

Posted: April 7th, 2014, 10:10 am
by Hav3n
Not a huge issue, but it has come up a couple of times. I've been run over before inside an uncap main by a carbomb and I seem to remember one or two admins saying that you should only use carbomb to detonate within uncap main.

I'm curious if there is any official stance on this?

Certainly, if you inadvertantly run someone over, that is one thing, but if you intentionally drive in to run people over, is that allowed? Or bannable? Or simply discouraged?

Re: Roadkilling with Carbombs in Uncap Mains

Posted: April 7th, 2014, 11:05 am
by Swanny-CG
I find it less irritating than getting spawn raped on a CTF map.

I would say it may be discouraged but the Lada is pretty easy to kill.

Re: Roadkilling with Carbombs in Uncap Mains

Posted: April 7th, 2014, 5:53 pm
by zanshin1
just jump over it, or wait ten seconds.....problem solved :D

Re: Roadkilling with Carbombs in Uncap Mains

Posted: April 7th, 2014, 7:22 pm
by i_am_not_your_father
I have a problem when a player *abuses* Lada's purpose. If all you are going to do is run over people in enemy main base and wont detonate the Lada then I'll give a warning and next a kick. This is exactly what happened the other day in Gazala. Cant remember player's name but he apologized.

IANYF

Re: Roadkilling with Carbombs in Uncap Mains

Posted: April 7th, 2014, 7:44 pm
by Demonic
i do remember who it was father, but its not needed to mention the name...all i know is, this person came into blues main constantly and ran over as many as he could, before setting the lada off....i always assumed it was not allowed, other wise you could do it with other vehicles on maps with no bubble.....

Re: Roadkilling with Carbombs in Uncap Mains

Posted: April 10th, 2014, 11:38 am
by Nightstalker
i_am_not_your_father wrote:... If all you are going to do is run over people in enemy main base and wont detonate the Lada then I'll give a warning and next a kick......
IANYF

Same here

Re: Roadkilling with Carbombs in Uncap Mains

Posted: April 10th, 2014, 12:03 pm
by Hav3n
So, generally speaking, running people over in the process of preparing to detonate is more or less acceptable? Just as long as that is not the only thing you're doing...is circling a base, protected from the death bubble, trying to road kill?

Re: Roadkilling with Carbombs in Uncap Mains

Posted: April 10th, 2014, 12:54 pm
by Sarge 1/68th Armor
Why is it that common sense serms to vanish in game play? :?

Re: Roadkilling with Carbombs in Uncap Mains

Posted: April 10th, 2014, 1:24 pm
by Trench
Hav3n wrote:So, generally speaking, running people over in the process of preparing to detonate is more or less acceptable? Just as long as that is not the only thing you're doing...is circling a base, protected from the death bubble, trying to road kill?
I read that a bit differently. Generally speaking, you should be avoiding hitting people with the Lada, no different than if you drove any other vehicle into the opposing team's main. "Vehicles attacking main" is not what's being allowed; car bomb attacking main is what's being allowed.

It's understood that occasionally there might be unintended collateral damage due to someone spawning right in your path or similar. But that should be rare, and "hit as many people as I can before detonating" is not the intention. Allowing "But my intention was to eventually detonate the bomb!" as the hard and fast rule would be unenforceable, because a player can always say "You simply killed me before I honked the horn!" no matter how many people they had run over.

A carbomb does legitimately just "hang out" or stay in the main, waiting for more equipment to spawn before detonating, or more players to spawn before detonating. So "staying in main for a bit before detonating" is understandable, but it's not a license to stay and kill people in other ways instead of detonating the bomb. You stay without detonating "at your own risk"; you can't "kill people other ways without detonating" in order to prolong your ability to stay.

(Unless you're Demonic, who can jump out of the Lada, go mid-air prone with the sniper rifle, and land back in the Lada, all before you type the "w" in "wtf???".)

If you wanted to push up against the edge of the rule, a suggestion that comes to mind would be "Don't run anyone over unless you have already honked the horn." That way its harder to be accused of "staying in the main running people over without detonating" because you already started the detonation timer, and in theory no one is dying who wasn't already likely in the blast radius anyway. But be prepared to still get warned if someone thinks you're pushing it; if you don't want to run that risk, don't run anyone over.

-Trench

Re: Roadkilling with Carbombs in Uncap Mains

Posted: April 11th, 2014, 10:31 am
by Swanny-CG
I'm going to stay away from nuance here, because in my experience it doesn't work. I don't care if you drive around in the main. If an admin tells you to knock it off because they feel it's disruptive, knock it off.

If a band (or even single guy) can't kill a lada, which seems to be made of tissue paper, well then that's kinda like Darwin at work.

Re: Roadkilling with Carbombs in Uncap Mains

Posted: April 11th, 2014, 1:40 pm
by Hav3n
It will be my pleasure to explore this tactic.

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Re: Roadkilling with Carbombs in Uncap Mains

Posted: April 11th, 2014, 5:51 pm
by Sarge 1/68th Armor
Why is there a snake comming out of the key chains ass?

Re: Roadkilling with Carbombs in Uncap Mains

Posted: April 12th, 2014, 3:30 am
by zanshin1
"If a band (or even single guy) can't kill a lada, which seems to be made of tissue paper, well then that's kinda like Darwin at work."


Exactly....move along.....

ps drive your lada around.....i like it....a fun challenge to kill u before u honk that horn.....if i get u....u wasted alot of time for nothing,

its a pain in the ass just getting there....I touch my nipples when I get u before that horn :D :D .lol.

etc. ty
try again.... :D